Friday, March 30, 2018

Cold Case Christianity: Wallace's completely bullshit case for God

This is my reply to an article by J. Warner Wallace entitled

Posted: 28 Mar 2018 01:17 AM PDT
My cold cases are typically built on circumstantial evidence.
Probably because you have to admit you have no "direct" evidence for you case.  What you don't tell the reader is that cases that are entirely or mostly "circumstantial" dramatically increase the potential for misunderstanding of convicting of an innocent person.  If your god really cared about rescuing me from my hell-bound ways as much as you insist he does, he would more than likely have made his truths more clear than the stupid fortune-cookie bullshit in the bible that has caused Christianity be the ceaselessly splintered religion its always been for 2,000 years.
Cumulative circumstantial cases are incredibly powerful when considered in their totality;
And a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.  Here's the image that comes to my mind when i think of Wallace's chain of cumulative arguments:

Image result for funny chain with plastic tie


the more diverse the forms of evidence (and the more abundant their existence), the more reasonable the conclusion. As jurors consider these large collections of evidence implicating a particular suspect, they must ask themselves a simple question: “Could this guy just be incredibly unlucky, or is he the cause of all this evidence because he is truly guilty?”
And the number of false convictions that has been on the rise in America for the last 50 years testifies that the more circumstantial the case, the more likely it will mislead the independent observer.  Wallace, if you were on trial for murder and you were innocent, and the prosecutor's case was entirely circumstantial, how much faith would you have in the ability of circumstantial cases to reveal truth?  FUCK YOU.
The more the evidence repeatedly points to the defendant, the less likely it is merely a matter of coincidence.
Agreed.
The cumulative case for God’s existence is similarly powerful. There are a number of circumstantial lines of evidence pointing to the existence of God, and the diverse, collective nature of this evidence is most reasonably explained by the existence of a Creator.
And when you allege that this creator is "immaterial" or "non-physical", you are positing things equally as unlikely as "dark matter" and other ridiculous unscientific speculations.  There is no evidence whatsoever that there is even any such thing as a "non-physical" thing that has existence independent of a mind.
This month, we’re featuring a free downloadable Bible insert summarizing a brief cumulative case for God’s existence, built on just five lines of circumstantial evidence:
Do you also plan to issue coupons?  Use sexy women to increase reader response to your god-commercials?  Is there a reason why you promote your god using modern secular marketing techniques that the Holy Spirit apparantly didn't need for hundreds of years?  Or do Christians sometimes get so zealous in their stupidity that they can no longer distinguish convenience from god's will? 
(1) The Temporal Nature of the Cosmos (Cosmological)
(a) The Universe began to exist
No, the standard Big Bang ('BB') model has become so ad hoc that it has evolved  and now takes several alternative forms, all of which do not allow the conclusion that the universe is temporal.  There is plenty of scientific opposition to the big bang, and Wallace's biggest problem is that he cannot explain this opposition as arising from unbelievers who are denying scientific reality merely to avoid having to admit the universe was created.  The Institute for Creation Research, where top academic Christians do all they can to falsify the theory of evolution, also say the Big Bang theory is total bullshit:
 
Maybe Wallace will do as fundamentalists typically do, and also accuse this decidedly conservative Christian think tank of being apostates for denying things Wallace thinks point toward God's existence?

Or will Wallace be objective enough to admit that the BB theory that he thinks is so obvious, actually isn't quite as compelling as he would wish?

Finally, Wallace must worry about how Genesis 1 would have been understood by its originally intended readers/hearers, since this is a basic rule of interpretation or hermeneutics.  it's pretty silly to think the pre-literate Hebrew living in the days of Moses would infer from anything in Genesis that the creation involved an enormous explosion and millions of years of cooling.  They would have understood Genesis to be describing god intelligently creating similar to the way a potter makes pots.  No explosions.  So the more Wallace wants the big bang to be true, the more he supports a theory that is contradicted by the very bible he is trying to justify.
(b) Anything that begins to exist must have a cause
yes, but only in the "re-configuring previously existing atoms" sense. The tree you have in your yard obviously didn't exist 100 years ago, but it didn't come into existence "from nothing", it came from a seed, nourished by other stuff already existing in the nearby dirt.

If THAT is the sense of "begins to exist" that you mean, there is no problem.  Unfortunately, if you meant it that way, then you didn't mean it in the "created from nothing" sense, and in that case, your argument ceases to provide support for the "created from nothing" sense that is meant in Genesis 1:1.

But if you meant "begins to exist" to mean "created from nothing", you hang on to the biblical sense you are apparently arguing for, but then you leave the realm of the scientific:  there is no evidence, whatsoever, that anything has ever popped into existence "from nothing", so the "create from nothing" sense that you meant above, is a sense that cannot be supported by any scientific evidence.  There are at least seven different competing theories of quantum mechanics, and only one of them, the Copenhagen School, alleges that quantum particles can appear from nothing and then go back out of existence again.  So the only possible evidence you could cite, is excessively controversial and cannot be confirmed anyway, and is denied by the majority of physicists.  Such a mater is hardly sufficient to corroborate your claim that things can possibly come into existence from nothing.

And since the first law of thermodynamics says energy and matter can neither be created nor destroyed, there is no reason to think that "matter" itself ever once didn't exist.  Matter spends an awful lot of time being reconfigured into new shapes, but there is no evidence that matter itself ever came into existence.  For this reason alone, it is rational to believe the universe and its matter have simply always existed.  You never get anything new by means of previously non-existing atoms.  You only get something new by taking the atoms that already exist and configuring them into new shapes.  When you burn a log to ash in the fireplace, no matter has disappeared into non-existence, it has simply taken on a changed form.  Since there is no such thing as the absolute annihilation of matter (that's why nuclear explosions are either fusion or fission, they aren't removing anything from the universe), it makes more sense to deny your premise and assert that the universe didn't come into existence, but has simply always existed into the infinite past.

(c) Therefore, the Universe must have a cause
your premises were demonstrably false, so your conclusion doesn't follow.
(d) This cause must be eternal (uncaused), non-spatial, immaterial, atemporal, and personal (having the ability to willfully cause the beginning of the universe)
This is what gives rise to the atheist argument from the incoherence of religious language.  In light of there being no scientific evidence for a god, your need to describe your god in terms that defy all attempts at confirmation (what the fuck does "non-spatial, immaterial" mean?), makes it more likely you need to do that because your god is not real by rather the result of a complex reality-defying fairy tale.It doesn't matter if non-physical gods exists, that is YOUR burden and you have failed it, so you have failed to intellectually obligate anybody to admit your position is more reasonable than atheism.  Start defining your god as a physical being, and many of these justified criticisms disappear.  Continue insisting your god lives in the 12th dimension, and continue being told that your imperfect inconsistent mind is the reason your idea of god has the same attributes.

(e) The cause fits the description we typically assign to God
(2) The Appearance of Design (Teleological)
(a) Human artifacts (like watches) are products of intelligent design
(b) Many aspects and elements of our universe resemble human artifacts
(c) Like effects typically have like causes
(d) Therefore, it is highly probable the appearance of design in the Universe is simply the reflection of an intelligent designer
 if the appearance of specified complexity implies intelligent design, then because the creator has to possess at least as much complexity as the thing created, "god" must also possess specified complexity, and therefore, God's own complexity argues for his being intelligently designed no less than does the 'amazing complexity' of the red blood cell.  I will give up atheism if you give up biblical monotheism.  Deal?

(d) Given the complexity and expansive nature of the Universe, this designer must be incredibly intelligent and powerful (God)
he also must be incredibly barbaric, since the existence of vegetarian animals and insects makes perfectly clear that God doesn't "need" to bring meat-eating or carnivorous life forms into existence, who by nature make other life forms miserable by hunting them.  And you cannot say some of the vegetarian animals in the Garden of Eden became carnivorous after Adam and Eve brought sin into the world, because sin would thus be a degrading effect on the animal's DNA, while the DNA responsible for the carnivorous attributes of certain animals is something you would normally ascribe to intelligent design.  If lions originally had molars, the introducing of sin into the world would not and could not cause those molars to evolve into meat-tearing fangs.  So you cannot use "sin" to justify distancing your god from the barbarity in the carnivore animals.  You are required by your own logic to say that God wanted by intentional design for those animals to tear each other apart. THAT is one reason we just laugh in your face when you insist your God is "loving".  Your own intelligent design argument cannot account for the existence of carnivorous animals, without binding you to the proposition that your god gets a thrill out of watching creatures suffer horrific pain and misery.  It's nice to know your God is a drunk college frat boy who endures carpel tunnel from clicking too much on liveleak.

(3) The Existence of Objective Moral Truth (Axiological)
(a) There is an objective (transcendent) moral law
You are crazy, that's a conclusion that you are mischaracterizing as a premise.  If you think there is some objective moral law that transcends the human mind, that's YOUR burden to show.  You don't.  You fail.
(b) Every law has a law giver
 Correct.

(c) Therefore, there is an objective (transcendent) moral law giver
That doesn't follow logically.  You have not demonstrated that any action is "good" solely for reasons that transcend the human mind.  Come up with a hypothetical act of a man and then demonstrate why its goodness or badness MUST derive from something deeper than human opinion.  You aren't gonna do it. There are good purely naturalistic reasons to explain why most civilized adults think pedophilia and murder are immoral, so you cannot even pretend that only God can explain why there is human consensus on certain moral acts.   If we can explain an insect's instinct to defend its young without having to say it was made in the image of god, we can also explain a human being's instinct to defend its young without having to say it was made in the image of God.  
(d) The best explanation for this objective (transcendent) law giver is God
The best explanation for as yes unproven "objective" morals is a being that cannot be defined except by special words that defy all attempts at empirical confirmation. Yet you talk about God's existence as if it was equally as obvious as the existence of trees. Nice going.

By the way "objective" means "true for reasons independent of the human mind". So if you declare any human act to be "objectively" immoral (i.e., murder, rape), then you rightfully shoulder the burden to provide the reason, which has no basis in the human mind, for why that act is objectively immoral.  You aren't going to do it.  If you think murder is objectively immoral, you need to show it so without appeal to what any human being thinks, or what any human being has ever said.  That's the consequences to you when you say the immorality of murder is for reasons that transcend human opinion.  Good luck.

(4) The Existence of Absolute Laws of Logic (Transcendent)
(a) The laws of logic exist
i. The laws of logic are conceptual laws
And "conceptual" only makes sense by presupposing the physicality of the mind.  Otherwise you are talking about concepts in an "immaterial mind", and there you are again, back in fairy tale town.

ii. The laws of logic are transcendent
no, the laws of logic operate the way they do solely because of the way we humans choose to define our words.  The only reason "married bachelor" is a logical contradiction is because we have defined "bachelor" as "not married".

Furthermore, you ignore the fact that there are axioms in reasoning.  Axioms are the absolute first steps in reasoning, so that asking why they function the way they do, is irrational.  If it is the VERY FIRST STEP in reasoning itself, then there will not be a "reason" why that first step or axiom operates the way it does.

Moreover, your argument is using logic to prove logic, which constitutes the fallacy of circular reasoning.  When you ask why A can never be non-A, you are attacking reasoning itself.  If you then use reasoning to explain the reasoning, you are again arguing in a circle or begging the question.  So it would appear that reasoning itself is not subject to reason.  There really is that very first absolute beginning to the reasoning process, you cannot just explain it into an infinite regress.  You know that book is on the table because you can see it.  You know your eyes aren't deceiving you because the book can also be confirmed to be there by touch, taste, smell, and hearing it fall onto the table.  The question "yeah, but how do you know that your 5 physical senses aren't deceiving you" must be answered "I don't".

I think this is where the people so desperate to prove god, therefore suddenly start positing the existence of ESP, the sixth sense, to get away from the above-cited conclusions that otherwise flow from common sense. What's next?  Bigfoot can switch dimensions and that's why we can never get a clear photo of him?

iii. The laws of logic pre-existed humans
Impossible, the laws of logic arise from the way humans define their words.  If we defined "bachlor" as married for less than one year", then "married bachelor" would no longer be a necessary contradiction.
(b) All conceptual laws reflect the mind of a law giver
Not if the law-giver is described in unfalsifiable and incoherent ways, such as "non-physical".   A magic fairy can explain why your car keys turned up missing, but the epistemological problems in the whole concept of "magic fairy" make it reasonable to discard that hypothesis and favor something that coheres with other demonstrated realities.
(c) The best and most reasonable explanation for the kind of mind necessary for the existence of the transcendent, objective, conceptual laws of logic is a transcendent, objective, eternal Being (God)
 If God's logic necessarily permeates the universe, sure is funny that his alleged morals don't.  And Christians who are 5-Point Calvinists don't believe your dogshit "god gave us freewill" excuse, so let God's likeminded ones get their act together before they insist that spiritually dead people should find the splintered house of Christianity to be the last bit compelling.

(5) The Unique Nature of Our World and Universe (Anthropic)
(a) Our universe appears uniquely designed so:
i. Life can exist
Life forms that cause horrific misery to others also exist, they are called carnivores.  So if we keep heading in the direction you wish to go, god's responsibility for "life" constitutes god's responsibility for creating carnivrores, i.e., God intended for certain animals to cause horrific misery to others, their carnivore nature wasn't merely from the degrading effect of "sin", as carnivores possess all those attributes of life you say are intentionally designed by an intelligent mind, no less than the vegetarian animals do.
ii. This same life can examine the universe
(b) This unique design cannot be the result of random chance or unguided probabilities
Why?
(c) There is, therefore, a God who designed the universe to support human life and reveal His existence as creator of the Cosmos
You haven't yet defined "god" in a coherent way, so until that day, there's good reason to view 'god' as the least probable of the possible explanations for life.  

Thursday, March 29, 2018

Third lawsuit against James Patrick Holding now inevitable

 See UPDATE: November 10, 2018, below:  Holding has now disabled comments to those videos where he defames me, and he has also dissolved his second corporation "Apologetics Afield".
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Here is the email I recently sent to Mr. Holding, having previously experienced his "the-evidence-you-want-is-on-my-computer-which-froze-so-I-threw-it-away" bullshit excuse in the prior lawsuits. I don't post this to boast, but only because there is a possibility that he might have set a filter to send my emails directly to the trash (given that he had one of his techies configure his website so that when accessed from my ISP, the only thing that shows up on my computer screen is unreadable raw html.

We all know that Holding is well aware of this blog, so by cross-posting that email here, I make it even more difficult for him to argue in the future that he never got a message asking him to preserve evidence.  Surely one of his stupid minions will carp about this post to him, and there you go, now he's accountable.

 That's right, homosexual Holding, start a gofundme page, and like last time, don't worry about the possibility of your supporters worrying whether the charges might actually be true (i.e., that you deserve to suffer as guilty).  We know from prior experience that they will come to your rescue even if you really are guilty as charged, amen? 


-------------------begin email
request to preserve evidence, you will be sued
Barry Jones <barryjoneswhat@gmail.com>
2:58 PM (0 minutes ago)
to TektonSlam (jphold@att.net)
Mr. Holding,
This is ----------, the man who sued you twice in the past for libel.

I am going to be suing you in the near future for libelous comments you posted about me to others through the internet between 2017 and the present. ---- v. Apologetics Afield, Inc, Florida Middle District. (i.e., the named Defendant will not be you but your non-profit organization, so under binding case law, you cannot represent yourself pro se, you either hire a lawyer, or you don't participate in the litigation).

And since your libels of me were intentional and false, I'm quite certain your libel-insurance contract has a disclaimer clause that says where your libels were intentional as opposed to being merely mistaken, the insurance carrier will not pay your legal expenses. Those thousands in lawyer fees will come straight out of your own pocket (excuse me, sorry, out of the pockets of people who are not guilty of any wrongdoing beyond being stupid enough to pay unnecessary bills you create with your libelous mouth). But we already know that your salivating customers don't really give a fuck whether the libel charges are true, or whether you are actually guilty, they just come running to your rescue by knee-jerk reflex, thinking rescue is always best, and like the stupid juvenile delinquents they are, never dream for one second that actually letting you suffer the consequences of your own illegal actions is also one of the ways the bible god works.

You are requested to preserve any and all communications you've had with third parties wherein I was a subject of discussion whether in whole or in part, regardless of whether i was designated therein directly, indirectly by my real name, internet name or any pseudonym made up by them, myself, you, or anybody else.

You are also requested to preserve the original form of any file you ever sent to anybody since 2016, or file that you didn't actually send to anybody since 2016, wherein I was the subject of the discussion whether in whole or in part, including but not limited to the files you promised to send others allegedly documenting evidence you think shows that am dishonest, or evidence that others have accused me of any type of dishonest conduct, including but not limited to the "free ebook" you promised to your paying customers at timecode 2:52 in the video you posted to YouTube located at the following address:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaTC2fR2roo

here's a screenshot in case God allows Satan to mess up the address so as to give you a plausible reason to accidentally "lose" that evidence:











You are also requested to preserve any physical drives/computers/devices that you used to communicate about me with others, or which you used to facilitate communications about me with others. Normally I wouldn't make this request, but then you have a history in court of conveniently losing evidence, including entire computers, when you are afraid your illegal bullshit is going to be publicly exposed, so it only makes sense to talk in lawyer-speak to make sure your stupid conniving cocksucking ass doesn't lie his way out of the truth for a third time. FUCK YOU.

By the way, I'm no longer mystified as to why Christian Research Institute ignored my prior emails to them exposing your biblical disqualification to hold any type of teaching office whatsoever. Hank's tendency to favor such hypocritical Christian miscreants became publicly exposed years ago in the scandal involving Paul Young,

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.religion.christian/pdr5Iwdb6A4/1yH0e3VyjAMJ

https://everyman2.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/former-cri-employee-attacks-my-book/

....and many former CRI employees including CRI's former senior researcher Robert Bowman, Jr. continue to presently opine that Hank had a temper and other problems resolving conflicts and was thus disqualified biblically to be any kind of leader for a Christian organization like CRI, and that he was a nasty mean son of a bitch to anybody who disagreed with anything he had to say...exactly like you.

On the contrary, it now makes perfect sense why a nasty mean son of a bitch would get rid of good Christian people and want another nasty mean son of a bitch to write articles for him. Apparently I had given Hank more moral credit than he deserved. When you write articles for CRI, you are right at home.

Nothing could give greater justification for skeptics to construe Christian apologetics as inherently deceitful, than Hanks' having vigorously argued with other apologists for the truth of traditional protestant evangelicalism for more than 20 years...only to find out several months ago that actually, Eastern Orthodoxy is the right form of Christianity.

If you can keep missing the Christian truth despite taking 20 years to study and defend one version of it with the best apologists Christianity has to offer, as Hank thinks he did for the last 20 years and more, sounds to me like the whole business of trying to decide which ancient religion was the right one is riddled with fatal ambiguities and falsities and is thus a ridiculous exercise in futility.

Which thus means any apologetics ministry, including yours, is every bit the dogshit enterprise I've been calling it for years.

You will learn to control your libelous mouth, or your customers can look forward to their hard earned money being allocated over from helping you purchase your triple cheeseburger midnight snacks in the name of Jesus, to paying modern pharisees thousands of dollars to help you come up with ways to avoid having to answer charges on the merits, when actually just being forthrightly honest about the facts is typically cheaper. FUCK YOU.

If you like it when I make huge dents in your credibility and your "ministry", just keep telling yourself that Acts 5:29 trumps modern America's prohibitions on libel. Maybe god has a greater purpose in forcing you to take Christian money and infuse it into lawyerland, where they care about the truth of Jesus about as much as they care about overcharging wealthy clients. FUCK YOU.

Sincerely,
--------------(end of email)
 Question for Holding's paying customers:

Which biblical character is more likely to encourage and support the efforts of lawyers who try to think up ways to enable their clients to avoid having to answer accusations of immorality on the merits?

Jesus, or the devil?

Provide the biblical evidence you believe supports your answer.  

UPDATE: November 10, 2018
 Here's the email I recently sent to James Patrick Holding.  He has disabled the comments to his YouTube videos, including those defamatory videos about me where he greedily promised his viewers a free ebook allegedly documenting negative opinions about me from other people, and he has now formally dissolved his second corporation "Apologetics Afield":

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 On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 12:52 PM Barry Jones <barryjoneswhat@gmail.com> wrote:
     Mr. Holding,    

    This is Christian Doscher.  My third lawsuit against Apologetics Afield ('AA') is going forward, you should be getting it from a federal marshal around X-mas.    

    I've noticed today that you disabled all comments for your videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/tektontv/videos, including the videos where you libeled me or were responding to something I did or said.

    For all videos you've ever posted to YouTube between 2013 and the present,  in which you were directly or indirectly responding to anything I've ever said or done, preserve all comments that anybody ever posted to such videos.  I also sent you an email many months ago asking you to preserve any such evidence, and you've clearly known for the last year about my own blog threatening such third lawsuit, at https://turchisrong.blogspot.com/2018/03/third-lawsuit-against-james-patrick.html    

    I also commented many months ago at one of your videos with a similar request that you preserve all such evidence.    

    If you claim that you "lost" all those comments after you disabled the commentary-option, then your failure to backup those comments first, will be argued in court to be spoiliation of evidence.  You are advised to request from YouTube or Google all such comments if you conveniently "lost" them.    

    If you kept a backup copy of those comments, then good for you, as they will be needed at trial.    

    This email is simply a continuing reminder and request that you continue to preserve ANY and ALL of your verbal and written words wherein you directly or indirectly mention me, any of my online aliases, or anything I've ever done, or anything you suppose I've ever said, written or done.

    This request refers to any and all of your communications to or from any third parties, between July 2014 and July 2019, wherein I was at least one of the subjects of discussion, whether directly or indirectly.  The request to preserve evidence is not limited to just comments on YouTube videos.    

    I also noticed that you've now closed down AA:    


    Perhaps this is a misinterpretation on my part, but your disabling comments to your YouTube videos, as well as your having voluntarily dissolved your two corporations, tells me that you are genuinely frightened of being sued again...so I'd like to offer you a chance to avoid this third lawsuit.

    The condition of settlement would be $5,000 to me (a tiny fraction of what I'll be suing you for), along with your posting an article to tektonics.org, theologyweb.com, deeperwatersapologetics.com, and equip.org, specifying that

    a) fear that your "internet predator alert" on me was genuinely libelous was at least one of the motives you had in removing it from your website.
    b) while not all of your false accusations against me were intentional, some of them were.
    c) you apologize for having libeled me, and you agree that some of your negative speech about me in the past constituted the "slander" that is the sin prohibited in Ps. 15:3,     31:13, 50:20, Prov. 10:18, 30:10, Isa. 32:7, Mk. 7:22, Eph. 4:31, Col. 3:8 and 1 Pet. 2:1, 12.
    d) you agree not to libel, defame or slander me ever again in the future.  You further agree to never libel, slander or defame anybody else every again as well.
    e) you agree with me that Christians who engage in the level of slander that you have committed in the past, clearly fail the qualification-criteria for teachers found in 1st Timothy 3 and 2nd Timothy 2:24-26.
    f) you agree with me that honest Christians who are sued in modern America, would not attempt to avoid answering the charges on the merits, but would answer fully and honestly any and all questions relevant to the charges against them.
    g) you got excitement and thrill out of slandering me on the internet, and you now recognize that this was due to your predisposition to act like a juvenile delinquent when facing criticism. 

    ....and other conditions I'll be adding.

    The settlement would not be legally valid until I formally approve of the wording of the above-described article.  If you think $5,000 makes more sense than paying $175,000, I'll be sending you the draft.

    And that article would be required to be permanent.  You agree to maintain tektonics.org as an active website, and to host said article there consistently,  for at least the next 15 years, and further agree to consistently maintain the above-described settlement draft.

    If you don't wish to settle, then start looking for an attorney.  Once again, I'm not suing you personally, I'm suing "Apologetics Afield".

    And once again, because your most recent libels of me (at least the ones I was able to find) were CLEARLY false, CLEARLY intentionally libelous and CLEARLY charging me with infamous crimes (i.e., libel per se), I have good reason to suppose that whatever libel-insurance carrier you have, if any, will be invoking the clause in their contract with you saying that they are not obligated to cover your legal fees if they decide that the libels you are charged with, were intentionally false or were committed with reckless indifference to the truth.  And as you know, your home-state, Florida, allows significant punitive damages even upon a jury finding of actual damages being minimal:

    "The singular protection afforded by Florida law to personal reputation in actions for defamations per se is
    further seen by the fact that punitive damages may be the primary relief in a cause of action for defamation per se."
    Lawnwood Med. Ctr., Inc. v. Sadow, 43 So. 3d 710, 727 (Fla. 4th DCA 2010)

     The better part of wisdom probably tells your insurance company that juries don't like asshole Christian apologists who get a juvenile-delinquent type of thrill out of libeling mentally disabled people.  I'm not mentally disabled, of course,  but the point is, YOU THOUGHT I WAS AT THE TIME YOU COMMITTED THE LIBELS.

    I have been able to obtain funding to actually fly to Florida to conduct a videotaped deposition of you with court reporter present, all at my expense.  I have my own reasons for not wishing to pursue this litigation.

    I also suggest that you have some heart to heart talks with Habermas and Licona; they have more credibility in Christian apologetics than you, they are legitimately credentialed Christian scholars who ceaselessly push the apologetics bit, yet they strongly disagree with your theory that talking shit to your critics is good, moral and biblical.

    So, are you ever going to admit you've ever done anything immoral or unbiblical regarding me since 2007?  Or does your genetic code prevent you from expressing remorse?

    Happy Holidays.
    Sincerely,
    Christian Doscher

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 For those of you who are wondering, yes, rebuking Holding for his prior sins IS my idea of making a settlement offer sound more attractive.  I won't exactly be pissing myself with disappointment if Holding feels offended and declines the offer.  I can't really say at this point what I desire more, vindication by settlement or vindication in court.

 For the download link to the lawsuit I previously filed against Holding in a Florida federal court, see here.

 Since Holding likely banned my email address, I made a further effort to notify him of this request to preserve evidence, by posting to https://www.youtube.com/user/tektontv/discussion as follows:
---beginquote
Mr. Holding,

This is Christian Doscher, I sent you an email requesting that you preserve evidence for the third lawsuit, the complaint for which you'll receive around Christmas.

If you didn't get that email, I posted it at my blog:
https://turchisrong.blogspot.com/2018/03/third-lawsuit-against-james-patrick.html

The email in question is at the last part of that article.

I would like to think that your disabling comments on your YouTube videos and your administrative dissolution of Apologetics Afield Corporation implies that you are starting to feel genuine remorse for your mostly libelous behavior toward me in the past.

Please confirm whether my impression is true or false. If false, get ready for legal war. And yes, I'll be flying to Florida to take a full videotaped deposition of you with court reporter present, at my expense, should you decline my settlement offer.
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