Showing posts with label science and faith. Show all posts
Showing posts with label science and faith. Show all posts

Thursday, July 20, 2017

Cold Case Christianity: What Is the Relationship Between Science and Religious Belief?

This is my reply to an article by J. Warner Wallace entitled:




 J. Warner Wallace discusses the relationship between faith, reason and scientific discovery in this interview with Jon Morrison. Are science and faith hopelessly opposed to one another?
 Yes.  In the letters between Galileo and the Catholic Church, the latter made perfectly clear that there is no precedent in Christian writing, whatsoever, for the premise that scriptural statements about the sun ceasing to move, and the earth being immobile, are mere "language of appearance".

The RCC appear to be correct...the only time Christians started thinking statements in scripture that look literal on their face, were merely "language of appearance", is after they started discovering scientific truths that contradicted the literal intepretation.

That is, there was nothing in the grammar or context of such passages to tell pre-scientific Christians that the language about earth and sun was merely one of appearance.

And what do you do with an interpretation of a bible verse that can claim no support from the grammar or immediate context?  Isn't the lack of such support a strong sign that the interpretation is false?

You adopt it anyway and create new lenses through which to view the scripture, if that's what you need to do to keep from admitting to yourself that your infinitely wise holy god lied, that's what.
 Can the scientific method assist believers in determining if God exists?
No, the scientific method is necessarily based on empiricism, which is limited to empirical or material things, while "god" is an incoherent concept (under the Christian/Judaeo understanding), and is thus in that class of things that empiricism most quickly dismisses.  Don't tell me about intelligent design, or I'll tell you about how many apologists there are who hypocritically condemn us for relying on our experience...why they rely on their experience of the world to decide what qualifies as intelligent design.
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Yeah, because without you purchasing Wallace's books and learning how to have a forensic faith, your spiritual growth will be stunted.  This guy is just TBN with a bit less emotionalism.  It's all still media, sales, and marketing strategies.  If Wallace really was an atheist, why do you think you'd be able to tell?  Wouldn't an atheist fronting as a Christian, do his level best to look as convincing as he can?

Failure to think critically is precisely why spiritually alive people in Ted Haggert's church never realized what a disqualified homosexual drug-abusing puke he was, until the spiritually dead people in the secular media first exposed him as such.

Jason Engwer doesn't appreciate the strong justification for skepticism found in John 7:5

Bart Ehrman, like thousands of other skeptics, uses Mark 3:21 and John 7:5 to argue that Jesus' virgin birth (VB) is fiction.  Jason Eng...