Wednesday, May 17, 2017

James Patrick Holding (aka Robert Turkel) prioritizes heretical scholarship above Christian scholarship

In a prior post, I quoted an email exchange I had with Holding's alleged scholar-hero Richard Rohrbaugh, indicating that Rohrbaugh thinks Holding's article attempting to justify modern-day Christians to insult their critics, as being an "obvious perversion" of Rohrbaugh's work, Context Group work and a perversion of the New Testament itself.

Notice that Rohrbaugh explicitly denied that the bible has God's words:

From: Richard Rohrbaugh <---
To: Barry Jones <barryjoneswhat@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Nahum out of the canon?
      Barry,
 A lot of questions...  Some quick answers:
         If a biblical author approves of insulting language and attitude does that mean it is a good thing?  No.  It means that author was mean and insulting.  Period.  Are such comments "from God"?  No.  The Bible is a human product.  It is not God's words, it is the words of its many authors.  They were like us: some were wise and thoughtful, some were vindictive, blind and short sighted.  The ancient Hebrews left us all sorts of stuff which THEY found meaningful.  Some of it has proven so to people everywhere for over 2000 years.  Other stuff they left us is less than worthwhile.  There are lots of bad characters in biblical stories.  Why should we imitate them?
While Holding can scream all he wishes that one can be a good bible scholar without believing the bible is God's inspired word, many conservative Christians who share Holding's core beliefs about the physical resurrection of Jesus, the deity of Christ, the Trinity, the historicity of the Virgin Birth, and the bible being "inerrant", would seriously question the morality of his heavy reliance on scholarship that denies the bible to be God's word.  They would complain that one essential New Testament criteria for good scholarship is conformity to Paul's beliefs that the scriptures are the inspired word of God:
 14 You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them,
 15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. (2 Tim. 3:14-17 NAU)
 Jesus certainly thought the scriptures were God's word:
 14 And Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about Him spread through all the surrounding district.
 15 And He began teaching in their synagogues and was praised by all.
 16 And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read.
 17 And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written,
 18 "THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED,
 19 TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD."
 20 And He closed the book, gave it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on Him.
 21 And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."
 (Lk. 4:14-21 NAU)
  38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.'" (Jn. 7:38 NAU)

 35 "If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), (Jn. 10:35 NAU)

I'd like to ask Holding:

1 - You have been belittling skeptics for years due to their attempts to justify their belief that the bible isn't the inspired word of God.  Do you believe there are any good justifications for denying that the bible is the word of God, yes or no?  If yes, what are they, and how does that admission impact your public image as a defender of the bible as the word of God?  If no, then why doesn't Rohrbaugh's agreement with atheist skeptics that the bible isn't god's word, make him equally worthy of the scorn you heap on everybody else who adopts the same view?  Mr. Objectivity never played favorites, did he?

2 - How do you justify your choice to use scholarship of Christians who deny the bible has God's words, in light of apostle Paul's belief that his words in his NT writings came from God?
 37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.
 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
 39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues.
 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner. (1 Cor. 14:37-40 NAU)
3 - Didn't Paul say those who do not agree with the words of Jesus, are sick in the head and create unnecessary havoc?
 3 If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness,
 4 he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions,
 5 and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. (1 Tim. 6:3-5 NAU)
4 - Some of your published books have been endorsed by lights such as Gary Habermas, Michael Licona and Craig Blomberg.  Do you suppose they would have aligned themselves with you publicly had they know the true extent to which you depend on the kind of Christian scholarship that denies the divine authenticity of the bible?  What are the odds that Blomberg would ever write a Forward to a book by Bishop Spong?

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