This is my reply to a video by J. Warner Wallace entitled
Posted: 19 Sep 2017 01:47 AM PDT
First, the notion that the resurrected Jesus appeared only by vision to the disciples is at least perfectly consistent with the fact that God in the bible routinely uses visions to communicate with humans:
Gen. 15:1
After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision,
saying, "Do not fear, Abram, I am a shield to you; Your reward shall be
very great."
Num. 12:6
He said, "Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I,
the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in
a dream.
Num. 24:4
The oracle of him who hears the words of God, Who sees the vision of the
Almighty, Falling down, yet having his eyes uncovered,
Num. 24:16
The oracle of him who hears the words of God, And knows the knowledge of
the Most High, Who sees the vision of the Almighty, Falling down, yet having
his eyes uncovered.
1 Sam. 3:15
So Samuel lay down until morning. Then he opened the doors of the house
of the LORD. But Samuel was afraid to tell the vision to Eli.
2 Sam. 7:17
In accordance with all these words and all this vision, so Nathan spoke
to David.
1 Chr. 17:15
According to all these words and according to all this vision, so Nathan
spoke to David.
2 Chr. 26:5
He continued to seek God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding
through the vision of God; and as long as he sought the LORD, God prospered him.
2 Chr. 32:32
Now the rest of the acts of Hezekiah and his deeds of devotion, behold,
they are written in the vision of Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, in the
Book of the Kings of Judah and Israel.
Job 20:8
"He flies away like a dream, and they cannot find him; Even like a
vision of the night he is chased away.
Job 33:15
"In a dream, a vision of the night, When sound sleep falls on men,
While they slumber in their beds,
Ps. 89:19
Once You spoke in vision to Your godly ones, And said, "I have
given help to one who is mighty; I have exalted one chosen from the people.
Prov. 29:18
Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained, But happy is he
who keeps the law.
Isa. 1:1
The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz concerning Judah and Jerusalem,
which he saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of
Judah.
Isa. 21:2
A harsh vision has been shown to me; The treacherous one still deals
treacherously, and the destroyer still destroys. Go up, Elam, lay siege,
Media; I have made an end of all the groaning she has caused.
Isa. 22:1
The oracle concerning the valley of vision. What is the matter with you
now, that you have all gone up to the housetops?
Isa. 22:5
For the Lord GOD of hosts has a day of panic, subjugation and confusion
In the valley of vision, A breaking down of walls And a crying to the mountain.
Isa. 29:7
And the multitude of all the nations who wage war against Ariel, Even
all who wage war against her and her stronghold, and who distress her, Will be
like a dream, a vision of the night.
Isa. 29:11
The entire vision will be to you like the words of a sealed book, which
when they give it to the one who is literate, saying, "Please read
this," he will say, "I cannot, for it is sealed."
Jer. 14:14
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood
in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them;
they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the
deception of their own minds.
Jer. 23:16
Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Do not listen to the words of the
prophets who are prophesying to you. They are leading you into futility; They
speak a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the LORD.
Lam. 2:9
Her gates have sunk into the ground, He has destroyed and broken her
bars. Her king and her princes are among the nations; The law is no more. Also,
her prophets find No vision from the LORD.
Ezek. 7:13
'Indeed, the seller will not regain what he sold as long as they both
live; for the vision regarding all their multitude will not be averted, nor
will any of them maintain his life by his iniquity.
Ezek. 7:26
'Disaster will come upon disaster and rumor will be added to rumor; then
they will seek a vision from a prophet, but the law will be lost from the
priest and counsel from the elders.
Ezek. 11:24
And the Spirit lifted me up and brought me in a vision by the Spirit of
God to the exiles in Chaldea. So the vision that I had seen left me.
Ezek. 12:22
"Son of man, what is this proverb you people have concerning the
land of Israel, saying, 'The days are long and every vision fails '?
Ezek. 12:23
"Therefore say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "I will make
this proverb cease so that they will no longer use it as a proverb in
Israel." But tell them, "The days draw near as well as the
fulfillment of every vision.
Ezek. 12:24
"For there will no longer be any false vision or flattering
divination within the house of Israel.
Ezek. 12:27
"Son of man, behold, the house of Israel is saying, 'The vision
that he sees is for many years from now, and he prophesies of times far off.'
Ezek. 13:7
"Did you not see a false vision and speak a lying divination when
you said, 'The LORD declares,' but it is not I who have spoken?"'"
Ezek. 43:3
And it was like the appearance of the vision which I saw, like the
vision which I saw when He came to destroy the city. And the visions were like
the vision which I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell on my face.
Dan. 2:19
Then the mystery was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel
blessed the God of heaven;
Dan. 7:2
Daniel said, "I was looking in my vision by night, and behold, the
four winds of heaven were stirring up the great sea.
Dan. 8:1
In the third year of the reign of Belshazzar the king a vision appeared
to me, Daniel, subsequent to the one which appeared to me previously.
Dan. 8:2
I looked in the vision, and while I was looking I was in the citadel of
Susa, which is in the province of Elam; and I looked in the vision and I myself
was beside the Ulai Canal.
Dan. 8:13
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that
particular one who was speaking, "How long will the vision about the regular
sacrifice apply, while the transgression causes horror, so as to allow both the
holy place and the host to be trampled?"
Dan. 8:15
When I, Daniel, had seen the vision, I sought to understand it; and
behold, standing before me was one who looked like a man.
Dan. 8:16
And I heard the voice of a man between the banks of Ulai, and he called
out and said, "Gabriel, give this man an understanding of the
vision."
Dan. 8:17
So he came near to where I was standing, and when he came I was frightened
and fell on my face; but he said to me, "Son of man, understand that the
vision pertains to the time of the end."
Dan. 8:26
"The vision of the evenings and mornings Which has been told is
true; But keep the vision secret, For it pertains to many days in the
future."
Dan. 8:27
Then I, Daniel, was exhausted and sick for days. Then I got up again and
carried on the king's business; but I was astounded at the vision, and there
was none to explain it.
Dan. 9:21
while I was still speaking in prayer, then the man Gabriel, whom I had
seen in the vision previously, came to me in my extreme weariness about the
time of the evening offering.
Dan. 9:23
"At the beginning of your supplications the command was issued, and
I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed; so give heed to the
message and gain understanding of the vision.
Dan. 9:24
"Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy
city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for
iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy
and to anoint the most holy place.
Dan. 10:1
In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a message was revealed to
Daniel, who was named Belteshazzar; and the message was true and one of great
conflict, but he understood the message and had an understanding of the vision.
Dan. 10:7
Now I, Daniel, alone saw the vision, while the men who were with me did
not see the vision; nevertheless, a great dread fell on them, and they ran away
to hide themselves.
Dan. 10:8
So I was left alone and saw this great vision; yet no strength was left
in me, for my natural color turned to a deathly pallor, and I retained no
strength.
Dan. 10:14
"Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen
to your people in the latter days, for the vision pertains to the days yet
future."
Dan. 10:16
And behold, one who resembled a human being was touching my lips; then I
opened my mouth and spoke and said to him who was standing before me, "O
my lord, as a result of the vision anguish has come upon me, and I have
retained no strength.
Dan. 11:14
"Now in those times many will rise up against the king of the
South; the violent ones among your people will also lift themselves up in order
to fulfill the vision, but they will fall down.
Obad. 1:1
The vision of Obadiah. Thus says the Lord GOD concerning Edom-- We have
heard a report from the LORD, And an envoy has been sent among the nations
saying, "Arise and let us go against her for battle "--
Mic. 3:6
Therefore it will be night for you-- without vision, And darkness for
you-- without divination. The sun will go down on the prophets, And the day
will become dark over them.
Nah. 1:1
The oracle of Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.
Hab. 2:2
Then the LORD answered me and said, "Record the vision And inscribe
it on tablets, That the one who reads it may run.
Hab. 2:3
"For the vision is yet for the appointed time; It hastens toward
the goal and it will not fail. Though it tarries, wait for it; For it will
certainly come, it will not delay.
Zech. 13:4
"Also it will come about in that day that the prophets will each be
ashamed of his vision when he prophesies, and they will not put on a hairy robe
in order to deceive;
Matt. 17:9
As they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them,
saying, "Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the
dead."
Lk. 1:22
But when he came out, he was unable to speak to them; and they realized
that he had seen a vision in the temple; and he kept making signs to them, and
remained mute.
Lk. 24:23
and did not find His body, they came, saying that they had also seen a
vision of angels who said that He was alive.
Acts 9:10
Now there was a disciple at Damascus named Ananias; and the Lord said to
him in a vision, "Ananias." And he said, "Here I am, Lord."
Acts 9:12
and he has seen in a vision a man named Ananias come in and lay his
hands on him, so that he might regain his sight."
Acts 10:3
About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of
God who had just come in and said to him, "Cornelius!"
Acts 10:17
Now while Peter was greatly perplexed in mind as to what the vision
which he had seen might be, behold, the men who had been sent by Cornelius,
having asked directions for Simon's house, appeared at the gate;
Acts 10:19
While Peter was reflecting on the vision, the Spirit said to him,
"Behold, three men are looking for you.
Acts 11:5
"I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a
vision, an object coming down like a great sheet lowered by four corners from
the sky; and it came right down to me,
Acts 12:9
And he went out and continued to follow, and he did not know that what
was being done by the angel was real, but thought he was seeing a vision.
Acts 16:9
A vision appeared to Paul in the night: a man of Macedonia was standing
and appealing to him, and saying, "Come over to Macedonia and help
us."
Acts 16:10
When he had seen the vision, immediately we sought to go into Macedonia,
concluding that God had called us to preach the gospel to them.
Acts 18:9
And the Lord said to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be
afraid any longer, but go on speaking and do not be silent;
Acts 26:19
"So, King Agrippa, I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly
vision,
Rev. 9:17
And this is how I saw in the vision the horses and those who sat on
them: the riders had breastplates the color of fire and of hyacinth and of
brimstone; and the heads of the horses are like the heads of lions; and out of
their mouths proceed fire and smoke and brimstone.
Second, Wallace neglects to mention that visions of Jesus are alleged in the NT. Paul's experience on the road to Damascus is called "vision" (Greek: optasia) in Acts 26:19, the same Greek word Paul uses to describe an absurd "caught up to the third heaven" state that left him guessing, even 14 years after the fact, whether it occurred in his body or out of his body, 2nd Corinthians 12:1-4.
13 at midday, O King, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining all around me and those who were journeying with me.
14 "And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew dialect, 'Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.'
15 "And I said, 'Who are You, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting.
16 'But get up and stand on your feet; for this purpose I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness not only to the things which you have seen, but also to the things in which I will appear to you;
17 rescuing you from the Jewish people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you,
18 to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the dominion of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.'
19 "So, King Agrippa, I did not prove disobedient to the heavenly vision,
20 but kept declaring both to those of Damascus first, and also at Jerusalem and then throughout all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds appropriate to repentance. (Acts 26:13-20 NAU)
NAU 2 Corinthians 12:1 Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord.
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago-- whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- such a man was caught up to the third heaven.
3 And I know how such a man-- whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows--
4 was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.
5 On behalf of such a man I will boast; but on my own behalf I will not boast, except in regard to my weaknesses. (2 Cor. 12:1-5 NAU)
Since optasia is rare in the NT, it is safe to say that if Paul uses it in two different contexts, then unless there is good evidence otherwise, he probably intends the word to carry the same meaning. Indeed, why is Paul characterizing his Damascus road experience as a vision anyway, if the Jesus that appeared to him, did so in the typical way that could be sensed by normal physical seeing?
Apparently, Paul believed his experience of Christ on the road to Damascus was just as puzzling in nature to him as was his absurd trip to heaven from 2nd Cor. 12, that he still cannot determine the exact nature of. There's no other reason for him to choose to use the same rare Greek word to characterize both experiences.
Third, Revelation doesn't specifically say John got that stuff by way of "vision" (except perhaps 9:17, supra), but the words it uses to describe how god communicated, leave no other option except that he got this stuff by "vision":
9 I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet,
11 saying, "Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea." (Rev. 1:9-11 NAU)
2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne was standing in heaven, and One sitting on the throne. (Rev. 4:2 NAU)
3 And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. (Rev. 17:3 NAU)
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, (Rev. 21:10 NAU)
Will any fool argue that these were physical realities external to John and he was merely enabled to see real things that unspiritual eyes normally can't see? No, John's source for his infamous Revelation was nothing more than "vision", hence, in Revelation 1, the resurrected Jesus appears by vision.
I do not say this vision proves the resurrection of Jesus was never more than vision. I am simply beating down the fundamentalists who get too cocky and pretend that experiencing a resurrected Jesus solely by vision is an absurd thing. Only if God's typical way of communicating throughout the bible is absurd, and only if Paul's experience of the risen Christ is absurd, and only if John's experience of the risen Christ in Revelation is absurd, can you say that the vision-hypothesis is absurd.
Fourth, Matthew 28:17 curiously says that among the 11 apostles who saw the risen Christ, "some doubted":
16 But the eleven disciples proceeded to Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had designated.
17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some were doubtful.
18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. (Matt. 28:16-18 NAU)
The Greek word for "doubtful" is distazo, and the only other time this is used in the NT is, again in Matthew, when Jesus is reproaching Peter for not having sufficient faith:
28 Peter said to Him, "Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water."
29 And He said, "Come!" And Peter got out of the boat, and walked on the water and came toward Jesus.
30 But seeing the wind, he became frightened, and beginning to sink, he cried out, "Lord, save me!"
31 Immediately Jesus stretched out His hand and took hold of him, and said to him, "You of little faith, why did you doubt?" (Matt. 14:28-31 NAU)
That Peter's "doubt" was a negative thing and not mere exuberant hesitation in the sight of a dramatic divine being, is seen from the fact that Jesus himself characterizes Peter has having had "little" faith and then re-characterizing this as "doubt".
Therefore, it is a strong likelihood that Matthew's unique choice to characterize some of the resurrection witnesses as "doubting" in 28:17, with a Greek word nobody else uses except Matthew again in 14:31 to indicate insufficient faith, is Matthew's way of telling the reader that some of the 11 apostles, upon seeing the risen Christ, did not have sufficient faith that they were really seeing a risen Christ.
Yes, other parts of the NT indicate all 11 apostles are convinced Jesus rose from the dead, but we have no idea how it is that some of the doubters in Matthew 28:17 overcame their doubts (and those who cite to doubting Thomas in John 20 open the door to the possibility that his expressions of skepticism here were taking place after the scene in Matthew 28:17, i.e., Thomas had seen the risen Christ earlier in Matthew 28:17, but still did not believe, raising the additional question of how the apostles could fail to believe their own eyes, suggesting what they are alleged to have "seen", they were not "seeing" with their physical eyes).
Then we have to contend with the fact that even evangelical inerrantists agree not everything John presents as history, was actual history (such as Mike Licona), so apologists cannot easily get rid of the possibility that if doubting Thomas existed, the story of Jesus appearing to him is nothing but pious fiction...so that we also have reasonable justification to say any stories about doubting apostles changing their mind do nothing to fix the problem of doubting apostles in Matthew 28:17.
And I don't believe in biblical inerrancy, so I see no problem in
saying some of those doubting apostles continued to doubt and the other
NT writers who declare otherwise are just lying. John unbelievably admits that after Jesus started teaching cannibalism, some of his disciples stopping following him (John 6:66), and since it is unlikely that eyewitnesses of a real Jesus doing genuinely supernatural miracles that could not admit of any naturalistic explanation, could this easily fall away, one reasonable explanation is that they easily fell away because Jesus hadn't shown them any genuinely supernatural miracles, and he didn't because he couldn't. They were like followers of Benny Hinn who eventually discover it's a bunch of hoopla with little to zero substance.
All scholars agree James the brother of Jesus didn't become a believer until after Jesus died (John 7:5), and this opens to the door to the possibility that there were reasons other than experiencing a risen Christ, that one overcomes their initial doubt and chooses to start going along with the other apostles. James could have felt that this group will create followers and tithers, and so he could secure his own financial stability by taking advantage of his biological relation to Jesus and joining the group with an eye toward becoming a leader.
Fifth, I agree with Christian scholars Daniel Wallace and Craig Blomberg that Mark intended to end his gospel at the place we now designate 16:8, which means the gospel most which scholars say is the earliest, is the one lacking any stories about Jesus appearing to anybody, a significant problem since if Jesus really did appear to the disciples after dying, Peter would likely have agreed with the other gospel writers that such a thing was a powerful supporting proof that he rose from the dead, so that Mark, Peter's companion, would likely have felt any resurrection-appearance preaching by Peter was important to include in his written version of Peter's preaching.
If that scholarly position is true, then one reason it is only the later gospels that specify resurrection appearances is because they were either later embellishments, or were based on something less concrete such as "visions".
Wallace at time-code 0:45 speaks about Saul's experience on the road to Damascus and tries to make it historically trustworthy by pointing out that at this time, Saul was very angry with the church and was persecuting Christians, and therefore, exceptionally unlikely to have a vision of Jesus. But Wallace is, again, doing nothing but drawing upon his audience's pre-existing trust that Acts is telling the truth. At 1:00 he says "then why is he seeing this?", as if the report in Acts is truthful beyond reasonable doubt. Wallace clearly has no intention in this video of engaging real skeptics, but only of impressing his Christian audience with his eye popping discovery that if you start out believing everything in the bible is historically reliable, it is a piece of cake to refute skeptical explanations of the biblical data.
I say the author of Acts is simply lying, or merely passing along false traditions. His desire to spin the historical truth to favor Paul can be seen from Acts 15, where the apostles curiously never appeal to the ultimate authority of something Jesus said, to refute the Judaizers. If Jesus never required Gentile men to be circumcised to be saved, this silence of Jesus would more authoritatively refute the Judaizers. But no, the apostles here curiously use nothing more to refute the Judaizers except their own ministry successes and their questionable and Paul-like understanding of select OT texts to prove their theological points. Sorry, but Luke is a dishonest author who prioritizes his agenda above fair and balanced reporting. And any dishonest author knows that lies are more convincing the more you can cloak them in truth. That's why Luke gets all the names of people and places correct. He is aware that you'll say "accurate in what can be checked, equals accurate in what cannot be checked!"
Well gee, if I said "I can levitate my body without any physical objects, and Sacramento is the capital of California" would you trust as true the part that can't be checked, because I was accurate in the part that can be checked? Of course not.
Wallace at time-code 1:30 ff argues that we cannot know each other's dreams, so that if we ever do know the content of somebody else's dream without the dreamer's previous help, surely God did it. Again, all Wallace is doing is blindly presuming that the book of Acts is historically trustworthy when it reports miracles.
Wallace at time-code 1:45 ff com mitts the same blunder, blindly presuming that the stories of the disciples seeing Jesus on the road to Emmaus and Mary seeing Jesus were historically reliable, then asking "how is this happening". How many things in the book of Mormon could be argued as historically true, if one starts out presuming the book of Mormon is historically reliable? Wallace is to apologetics what Sesame Street is to rocket science.
Wallace at time-code 2:30 artificially builds momentum and pretends that as we keep going through the bible, the number of witnesses ends up being as high as "11 !" and more, and then pretending that surely these people cannot be experiencing group hallucination. But Wallace's error is in assuming that this biblical data is historically reliable. It isn't, so it hardly needs to be 'explained', except as legendary embellishment.
And Wallace in doing this forgets, or intentionally avoids, the fact established above, that Mark is the earliest gospel, and was intentionally ended at 16:8, and therefore, the reason only the later gospels have resurrection appearance stories is because said stories are simply legends. We need to "explain" the resurrection appearances about as much as we need to "explain" how the three bears can talk to each other in the story of Goldilocks.
Wallace at time-code 2:50 absurdly talks about the ascension of Jesus (Acts 1) and bets that if you the skeptic needed to see a miracle to believe, you'd surely become a believer after watching Jesus rise ascend into the sky (!?). Is Wallace attempting to do apologetics (i.e., refute skeptical theories of the resurrection), or is he preaching to the choir? If Wallace is sure we'd believe upon seeing Jesus ascend.well, is Wallace speaking by the Holy Spirit here, yes or no? If he is (as is likely under Christian assumptions given he is trying to prove the resurrection of Jesus and edify the faith of existing believers) then the Holy Spirit also knows we'd become believers by seeing such miracles, and since he was willing for first-century people to begin faith by seeing that miracle, nobody can argue that maybe God doesn't want modern skeptics to be quite as wowed with such miracles today, leaving God with zero excuse for refusing to do for us today, all that he did for those of the 1st century to demolish skepticism.
Wallace at time-code 4:05 ff says going back to the empty tomb is the way to show that all these alleged appearances of Jesus are false, because "the tomb was empty". But a) Acts 1 says the disciples intentionally waited for 40 days before publicly proclaiming that Jesus rose from the dead, which would have the beneficial effect of causing Jesus' body to undergo so much decay that Christians could plausibly deny it was Jesus if the corpse was produced to refute their resurrection claims, b) the number 40 is obviously round and has religious significance, and therefore opens the possibility that their delay in preaching could have been as long as 60 or 70 days in actual history, c) the whole idea that Jesus, executed as a common insurrectionist criminal, should be allowed by the Romans to be buried in a rich man's tomb is not consistent with the Roman policy of requiring the corpse to stay on the cross several days as deterrent to others, d) Jesus and his disciples likely made clear before he died that he would rise from the dead, so the Jews who knew of his teachings and successfully sued for his death, would have strongly objected to any request to the Romans that his friends remove his body from the chain of custody, and e) there basis for the resurrection in the earliest published gospel was not eyewitnesses seeing a risen Christ, but women hearing from either a man or an angel at the tomb that Jesus rose, Mark 16:6, and f) Wallace and others ceaselessly assume that the original Christian resurrection preaching really was something that the Jews gave two shits about, when in fact it is unlikely to be the case, we don't know a) how early the post-resurrection preaching really was or b) exactly what was claimed, so as to tell whether they were making falsifiable claims, or esoteric claims which by nature can never be fully refuted, and therefore, the Jews would no more get Jesus' corpse to shut them up, than we would pay to have the Loch Ness dragged to the satisfaction of whatever idiot made known his gullible belief that this monster lives there.
To sum up,
----Wallace in this video was not interested in refuting the skeptical theory of the risen Jesus being a mere vision or hallucination, because Wallace blindly presumes with his Christian audience that everything the NT says about Jesus and the resurrection testimonies is historically true.
----Some NT evidence gives rise to a possibility which apologists refuse to allow, that the "seeing" of a resurrected Christ was some type of special event that allowed room for doubt (Matthew 28:17).
----Visions are the typical way God in the bible communicates truths to human beings, so a vision-based resurrection claim is biblical even if not preferred by modern day apologists.
----Paul's experience of Christ on the road to Damascus gives every appearance of being wholly fabricated, or is a story about him having some type of blinding seizure, that has been embellished with fictional Jesus elements.
Now YOU need to answer this question: did Wallace say anything in this video that should cause informed bible skeptics to start quaking in their boots? I'm guessing "no".
